tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030510023279949107.post8293184524633506820..comments2023-03-28T08:41:03.753-04:00Comments on Cryonics Meets Medicine: Cryonics Institute "Neuros" Better Than AlcorUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030510023279949107.post-18062261346978260382009-11-09T11:16:03.507-05:002009-11-09T11:16:03.507-05:00Wow-- I had not realized that you had participated...Wow-- I had not realized that you had participated in cold bloodless surgery. Astounding. Why can't we make the protocol for THAT-- an INHERENT part of the cryonics process? No need for life-suppressing drugs-- in THAT process right? (See Mike Darwin's amazing article on cryoncs kits with life suppressing drugs in How Dead is Dead Enough in DeWolf's blog). <br /><br /><br />http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22how+dead+is+dead+enough%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=Rick Potvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16405357824368245453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030510023279949107.post-58563648294202056102009-10-31T09:39:05.554-04:002009-10-31T09:39:05.554-04:00If you are referring to a case in which the blood ...If you are referring to a case in which the blood was replaced with something else, no. I have participated in a few dozen cases in which we cooled to below 18 degrees C, and then exsanguinated the patient, (draining most of their blood into the perfusion reservoir), and then turned off the heart lung bypass machine. (Meaning they had little blood left in their body, no circulation or respiration, and probably no detectable EEG activity, while repairs to the ascending aorta, or aortic arch, were performed.AboutCryonicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01352014895064762853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030510023279949107.post-36043283908789634542009-10-31T08:53:02.823-04:002009-10-31T08:53:02.823-04:00Have you participated in a low temperature bloodle...Have you participated in a low temperature bloodless surgery case?Rick Potvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16405357824368245453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030510023279949107.post-64053389633641616852009-10-30T11:27:14.552-04:002009-10-30T11:27:14.552-04:00This is probably a topic worth looking at more dee...This is probably a topic worth looking at more deeply in terms of Alcor's history. The neuro goes a looong way back-- and it seems to me it was justified by LN2 cost considerations more than anything else. The lack of writing and transparency in cryonics over the years, combined with natural tendency to NOT think about these types of things, has led me astray, quite possibly. I never considered the details of perfusion of my head before... a startling admission on my part. The revelation that CI is doing effectively neuroperfusion is itself stunning in context, but again the major weakness in all of cryonics is the inability for cryos to write and draw. The literature in cryonics is always meant to suppress and redirect rather than truly expose and educate. Your writing continues to be fresh air in a very deep dark area.Rick Potvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16405357824368245453noreply@blogger.com